[Solved]Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby 3MonitorsToo » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:45 pm

Similar problems here with the latest Oculus software update.
Stutters (long pauses) during flights make Flyinside and the Oculus Rift unusable for flying in X-Plane 10.
Before the software update I was using X-plane 10.52 with photoscenery at ZL18 over LOWI without problems,
now I can't even fly out of EDDT with minimal rendering settings in X-Plane without pauses.
It must have something to do with the Oculus software update, it ran fine while on 1.16.

The appropriate logs are attached.

Steven.
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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby 3MonitorsToo » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:14 am

Just to add:

In task manager, X-system shown as "Not responding" during pause.
All four cores of the CPU are maxed out during the pause.

There's nothing recorded in the X-plane log to indicate a problem at the time of the pauses.

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby 3MonitorsToo » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:22 am

Re pauses during flight:

I have managed to reduce the number of pauses during a flight by connecting the Oculus Rift headset to a USB2 port rather than a USB3 port,
but pauses still occur. Other thing to note is that GPU load drops to almost zero during the pause.

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby MRSHADO » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:45 am

3MonitorsToo wrote:Re pauses during flight:

I have managed to reduce the number of pauses during a flight by connecting the Oculus Rift headset to a USB2 port rather than a USB3 port,
but pauses still occur. Other thing to note is that GPU load drops to almost zero during the pause.

Steven.


Thanks Steven - I'll give that a try right now, but I think my issue may be more severe. I do however really appreciate the advice and will let you know if that helps.
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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby 3MonitorsToo » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:15 am

MRSHADO wrote:
3MonitorsToo wrote:Re pauses during flight:

I have managed to reduce the number of pauses during a flight by connecting the Oculus Rift headset to a USB2 port rather than a USB3 port,
but pauses still occur. Other thing to note is that GPU load drops to almost zero during the pause.

Steven.


Thanks Steven - I'll give that a try right now, but I think my issue may be more severe. I do however really appreciate the advice and will let you know if that helps.
Cheers

You are welcome.

Also note that I'm using X-Plane 10. My rendering settings in X-Plane, the Oculus tray tool and Flyinside are set to give me
about 45/90 to 52/90 FPS. I haven't tried to push my system harder with the current 1.17 Oculus release.

I picked up the relative info from this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comment ... 17_update/

Hopefully the Flyinside chaps will find out the cause and offer a solution/fix.
I wish I could go back to 1.16, but it's gone.

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby MRSHADO » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:24 pm

3MonitorsToo wrote:
MRSHADO wrote:
3MonitorsToo wrote:Re pauses during flight:

I have managed to reduce the number of pauses during a flight by connecting the Oculus Rift headset to a USB2 port rather than a USB3 port,
but pauses still occur. Other thing to note is that GPU load drops to almost zero during the pause.

Steven.


Thanks Steven - I'll give that a try right now, but I think my issue may be more severe. I do however really appreciate the advice and will let you know if that helps.
Cheers

You are welcome.

Also note that I'm using X-Plane 10. My rendering settings in X-Plane, the Oculus tray tool and Flyinside are set to give me
about 45/90 to 52/90 FPS. I haven't tried to push my system harder with the current 1.17 Oculus release.

I picked up the relative info from this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comment ... 17_update/

Hopefully the Flyinside chaps will find out the cause and offer a solution/fix.
I wish I could go back to 1.16, but it's gone.

Steven.

Didn't work. Haha. Thanks for the thread, I gave it a good read and tried a few suggestions. I found another which calls for disconnecting HMD and Sensors then selecting FORGET THIS DEVICE in Oculus Client to restart their connections. After that, I think I will uninstall XP11 and wait for the native VR version. I happen to know it is NOT Flyinside (which is a great program) but this sort of PC scrutiny is why I left the FSX/P3D community months ago.

Thanks for the help!
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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby 3MonitorsToo » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:38 am

"Stutters (long pauses) during flights make Flyinside and the Oculus Rift unusable for flying in X-Plane 10."

Any news from the Flyinside developer on a fix for this?

Things I have tried to no avail:
Buying and installed the four port USB card as recommended by Oculus.
The two sensors and the headset have dedicated access to this card.
Using a single sensor instead of two.
Buying a PS2 mouse to replace the USB one.
Using default X-Plane scenery only, with no objects to draw, trees buildings, cars etc.
I no longer use the Oculus tray tool or the debug tool.
I have tried both the stable release of Oculus Home and the beta release.
I ran all tests from a clean reboot and starting Flyinisde without Oculus Home already running.
The Xbox controller and its USB adapter are removed as I never use the device.
The touch controllers have their batteries removed and placed in a separate room as I never use these with Flyinside.
All joysticks are connected to the motherboard USB 2 interfaces.
I never exceed the NVRAM limit of the GPU - monitored with GPUZ.
The GPU power consumption and GPU load never hit 100%, there is always plenty of headroom.
During a long pause the Flyinside interface will be displayed in the headset stating "waiting for simulator"
Frame rate depends on scenery, but I get a minimum of 40/90 and a maximum of 60/90.
All flying is done with CAVOK conditions.

An indication of some progress fixing this bug would be appreciated.

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby Muso-Ka » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:25 am

Hi.
I'm not sure that we are talking about the same thing, but I also had "Stutters (long pauses)" and for a long time I did not know how to get rid of it. And the problem was in the video card. The HDMI output did not provide enough speed. I connected the Rift to the DVI output via the adapter and no longer have this problem.

Oleg.

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby 3MonitorsToo » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:04 am

Muso-Ka wrote:Hi.
I'm not sure that we are talking about the same thing, but I also had "Stutters (long pauses)" and for a long time I did not know how to get rid of it. And the problem was in the video card. The HDMI output did not provide enough speed. I connected the Rift to the DVI output via the adapter and no longer have this problem.

Oleg.

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Thanks for the info, but I suspect that we are talking about something different.
The pauses I get can be in the order of seconds, the longest I got was ten seconds.

This has only been happening since the Oculus Home software was updated from 1.16 to 1.17

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Re: Flyinside XP vs Oculus Client 1.17.0.4

Postby Tony » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:11 pm

Have you tried the 1.18 beta of oculus home ? I'll pass this thread on again for you all.
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