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Postby keem85 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:50 pm

I'm sure my system can handle it. I'm running an A2A aircraft with ORBX scenery and REX, and I have rock solid 70+ frames when running Flyinside with 4K.. I want to crank it even higher..
Can it be overridden somehow?
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby admin » Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:23 pm

That's awesome! So pixel density is really just another way of expressing resolution. Higher pixel density is the same as higher resolution, just a different way of writing the number :)

If you want to go above the resolution on the FlyInside Menu, you can! Just edit the resolution manually in the FlyInside Settings file, location here: http://wiki.flyinside-fsx.com/index.php/Settings_Files

You will see two different lines in the Settings ini with your resolution, just edit them both to match a new higher resolution, and best of luck!
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby keem85 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:03 am

admin wrote:That's awesome! So pixel density is really just another way of expressing resolution. Higher pixel density is the same as higher resolution, just a different way of writing the number :)

If you want to go above the resolution on the FlyInside Menu, you can! Just edit the resolution manually in the FlyInside Settings file, location here: http://wiki.flyinside-fsx.com/index.php/Settings_Files

You will see two different lines in the Settings ini with your resolution, just edit them both to match a new higher resolution, and best of luck!


That's nice Dan! I got it working with 5k just fine without problems.. I also got it working in 8k, but the headtracking was juddering, but the game still ran at 70fps, even with 8k.. Do you know why it judders, whilst still going with 70fps?
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby aurel42 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:30 pm

keem85 wrote:I got it working with 5k just fine without problems.. I also got it working in 8k


So jelly. Tell me everything! What kind of rig? How does it look? What happens when you add AA on top of it?
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby keem85 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:26 am

aurel42 wrote:
keem85 wrote:I got it working with 5k just fine without problems.. I also got it working in 8k


So jelly. Tell me everything! What kind of rig? How does it look? What happens when you add AA on top of it?


AA works fine on top of it, no problems. I have a MSI 1080 GX, a 4770k overclocked to 4.5GHz. I'm running the game from a normal HDD, no SSD. All stutter disappeared after purchasing Vengeance Pro 16gb 2400mhz RAM.
Also in order for me to acheive high FPS, I learnt the hard way that I shouldn't have altered the .cfg file at all.. They should be clean as snow :) I have a stable 70fps.. But here's what I also found out. Locking the frames to 45 (46, to have 1 frame headroom) is half of 90. It makes positional tracking less juddery by far!! Since it's half of the screens refresh rate
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby aurel42 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:47 am

Since your question has been answered, I'll shamelessly hijack this thread to ask your advice about my rig. :D

keem85 wrote:AA works fine on top of it, no problems. I have a MSI 1080 GX, a 4770k overclocked to 4.5GHz. I'm running the game from a normal HDD, no SSD. All stutter disappeared after purchasing Vengeance Pro 16gb 2400mhz RAM.


My setup is inches away from your setup, yet my result is miles away from your result.

I do run significantly slower RAM (DDR3-1600). I was told that upgrading the RAM "isn't worth it", because it wouldn't make a difference for most games (blabla highly localized code blabla big cpu caches blabla), perhaps FSX is the exception to the rule?

The specs for my board are saying: "Support for DDR3 3200(O.C.) / 3100(O.C.) / 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz memory modules" -- not sure how to read that and whether it means I can just buy some faster-than-1600 DDR3 RAM and use it at it's max speed. Any idea?

I did try a bit of CPU overclocking, but with my (air) cooling, the 4790K already runs at 90°C when I try 4.4 GHz, which seems a bit too hot, so I guess I will have to invest in better cooling, too.

I learnt the hard way that I shouldn't have altered the .cfg file at all.. They should be clean as snow


Huh. Not even an affinity mask to "disable" HT for the sim?

Thanks for any advice you can give!
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby keem85 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:41 pm

aurel42 wrote:Since your question has been answered, I'll shamelessly hijack this thread to ask your advice about my rig. :D

keem85 wrote:AA works fine on top of it, no problems. I have a MSI 1080 GX, a 4770k overclocked to 4.5GHz. I'm running the game from a normal HDD, no SSD. All stutter disappeared after purchasing Vengeance Pro 16gb 2400mhz RAM.


My setup is inches away from your setup, yet my result is miles away from your result.

I do run significantly slower RAM (DDR3-1600). I was told that upgrading the RAM "isn't worth it", because it wouldn't make a difference for most games (blabla highly localized code blabla big cpu caches blabla), perhaps FSX is the exception to the rule?

The specs for my board are saying: "Support for DDR3 3200(O.C.) / 3100(O.C.) / 3000(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2600(O.C.) / 2500(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 2000(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1800(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 MHz memory modules" -- not sure how to read that and whether it means I can just buy some faster-than-1600 DDR3 RAM and use it at it's max speed. Any idea?

I did try a bit of CPU overclocking, but with my (air) cooling, the 4790K already runs at 90°C when I try 4.4 GHz, which seems a bit too hot, so I guess I will have to invest in better cooling, too.

I learnt the hard way that I shouldn't have altered the .cfg file at all.. They should be clean as snow


Huh. Not even an affinity mask to "disable" HT for the sim?

Thanks for any advice you can give!


Hey man!! Oh guess how many hours I've spent on bad performance, trying every affinity setting there is.. HT on/off all over the place.. Setting the P3D.exe to run on certain cores whilst having processes on others.. None of them worked at all.. It wasn't until I activated Hyperthreading and deleted the .cfg files for both P3D and Flyinside, that I noticed how much more framerate I got.. I guess it's not for nothing that Lockheed Martin is telling us NOT to disable the hyperthreading, at the same time saying that the .cfg doesn't need to be altered.. I learned the hard way that they were right..

And on to the RAM.. It made a huge difference for me in regards to stuttering at least.. I upped from 1333 to 2600 DDR3.. Best choice in a long time! It's a class 11, but it still has a low latency..
CPU should be clocked as high as possible.. So yeah, probably a new set of RAM and cooling set?.. Before you do anything, try to delete both "C:\Users\Kim-PC\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D.cfg" and "prepar3d_FlyInside.cfg"... Then start P3D without Flyinside, and then exit.. Then start Flyinside.. It will copy P3D's cfg file.. See if you get better framerate after doing this.. And from here you can decide what to do further in terms of hardware
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby whitav8 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:00 pm

@keem85

I would like to try 5K - what numbers did you change to from the original:
Oculus Target Resolution = 3840 2374

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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby keem85 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:48 pm

I don't remember.. Devide it to four, and then you will find the resolution to add
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Re: Is it possible to override the pixel density? I want mor

Postby aurel42 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:35 pm

keem85 wrote:I guess it's not for nothing that Lockheed Martin is telling us NOT to disable the hyperthreading, at the same time saying that the .cfg doesn't need to be altered.. I learned the hard way that they were right..


Oh, I wasn't aware of that, I only switched to P3D days ago and figured all my FSX wisdom was still applicable. I'll hurry to revert my (few!) changes. :)

And on to the RAM.. It made a huge difference for me in regards to stuttering at least.. I upped from 1333 to 2600 DDR3.. Best choice in a long time! It's a class 11, but it still has a low latency..


I'm gonna try it. I'll do anything for my eye-candy (except turning down scenery complexity and autogen, of course).

Thanks for your advice!
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