p3dv4 initial impressions, issues, 4K black screen

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p3dv4 initial impressions, issues, 4K black screen

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:32 pm

Installed the new version with p3d v4.1 and it was pretty smooth out of the box.

I decided to crank the sampling all the way up, my default (florida) area fps went from 58 to 63 to around 44 on average at times.. stuttering a bit.
Clearly in need of a little tweaking, as at least with p3d v3 i could crank to the max and it would be ok.

So i thought maybe i just need to lower AA in sim perhaps (i'm not seeing an AA option in flyinside for v4.. is this right?).. when i look at the sim window.. its black.. i cant get to the menu to even tweak sim graphic settings.
And when i tried to move the screen from one screen to another it crashed p3d, event viewer saying unknown module causing the crash.. (not that i think moving it to another screen would have cured the black screen issue)..

Any thoughts / experiences to add here.. possible tweaks or why i'm getting a black screen.. or any NI tweaks that could be useful?

Thanks
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:49 pm

Anyone else having this black screen issue?

Impossible to access the menu on the lcd 2d. It just doesn't work
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby Tony » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:39 pm

No I'm not seeing that mate......so the 2D window is black ? I am trying now and it's fine. Would it be OK to try to save or delete p3d.cfg and let the sim rebuild to see if that helps ?
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:21 am

Tony wrote:No I'm not seeing that mate......so the 2D window is black ? I am trying now and it's fine. Would it be OK to try to save or delete p3d.cfg and let the sim rebuild to see if that helps ?


I recreated the cfg, no change.. i mean, in the 2d window you can see the loading progress but thats about it.. if you hit alt, you cant see the menu.. cant goto things like graphics options, change settings like you could with p3dv3.. if i use the FI menu system, to say change aircraft, i can view it in the virtual window and it IS in the 2d, originally thought it wasnt, but its wider than the 2d window, so you cant see full selection area.. its really strange (i assume not by design).

As far as in FI, should there NOT be an MSAA option in this version for v4 i assume?
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:47 am

This morning I decided to try uninstalling Fi and reinstalling. Now when the sim hits 80 percent loaded it crashes with a kernelbase.dll error
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby Tony » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:00 pm

First thing, try running as administrator.
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:42 pm

Tony wrote:First thing, try running as administrator.

I always do
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby Tony » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:49 pm

Does the sim load without Flyinside mate ?
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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:47 pm

well, i decided to wipe the shaders.. then relaunched and it is back to loading at least.. i made some progress on the black screen, sort of.. when i move the window from my 4k screen to the left 1080p screen, i can see the menu and the display mirrored.. only thing is, it doesnt "fit" the window even on the 1080 screen.. i tried switching the resolution in the sim via the menu to 1080 rather than 4k, this helped a little but the screen is still not sized right.. closer but not quite right.


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Re: flyinside for p3dv4 initial impressions, issues...

Postby theskyisthelimit99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:57 pm

More of an update here..

I decided to just disable the 4k screen as a test, left it on the 1080.. however.. the screen was still stretched, things too big to fit.. so i thought i should check the scaling.. after a log off and setting to 100% on the 1080, everything fits to window..

The issue on the weird scaling is that on the 4k screen i had it to 175%.. so even dragging the window to the 1080 it would overscale .. still doesnt explain the black screen on the 4k screen.


So i did more testing, upped some graphic settings.. and as it accepted graphic changes i was hit with a ctd.. MSVCR120.dll related.

This even after clearing shader cache
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