by denrainwater » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:16 pm
I have loved this experience so much. But my frustration is looming MUCH larger than my pleasure these days! (And since life-circumstances are forcing me to sell my real airplane, it is all the more urgent I find a solution to my sim problems!)
At this moment, I seriously regret moving from V3.x to V4.x. I like the new lighting and had placed GREAT hope in the promise of no more OOMs. But the lighting isn't 'enough', and the promise of no more memory issues hasn't been kept AT ALL, in my case.
In V3, I knew most flights would eventually end in an OOM crash. But with V4, most days I'm lucky if I can get P3D STARTED at all. (Through FlyInside. Running it without FlyInside hasn't presented any of these problems.) And if I do, it will usually require three or four CTDs (usually resulting in a BSOD, or at least a complete reset of my resolution to its minimum setting) before it will run. Which means the tedium of yet another computer restart... And this is all on profoundly lower settings that I had gotten used to enjoying in V3! Is FI's support for V4 THAT far behind where it had been for V3?? I know I lost the support for my SLI. But isn't everything else supposed to be up to about the same standards? And is one GTX 980Ti THAT much worse than what I had thought was rather minimal usage of my SLI configuration?
This will be a somewhat lengthy post, as I want to lay out the details of my problems, and those of my configuration -- in a desperate hope of getting this resolved. I am SO disappointed...
Okay -- My Issues:
As I've said, I'm getting FREQUENT CTDs, and other bizzare behavior. In the same places I enjoyed FPS's (native) in the 30-40s range with V3, I'm usually lucky to get just 20 or so in V4. Even in "light" areas where I would expect good performance, it's not at all unusual to have FPS's in the teens while I'm on the ground. And this is with an i7-6700K at 4.6GHz, 16GBs of 3000 RAM, two GTX 980Ti's (I know only one is used for now with V4), EVO 850 SSDs -- four separate ones for OS, P3D, PILOT's Mesh, and most other addons.
EVERY flight, I immediately get the Windows 'low memory -- you should close some programs' warning. Ignoring that might let me fly -- if I do, the flight usually runs to completion.
Most of my crashes seem to indicate an "Out Of Memory" state as their cause. Yet according to the Task Manager performance monitor, my RAM usage is virtually NEVER above 50%!
With V3, I used to be able to open a browser (Chrome is what I usually use) with P3D running, and usually not cause a problem, unless perhaps it was toward the end of my memory's ability to keep up, and an OOM crash was already imminent anyway. Now, if I have P3D running and try to open a browser (like to check for a airport map, etc) Windows will IMMEDIATELY shut down the browser -- if the event goes well. If it doesn't (about 1/3 of the time), it will crash the entire computer -- usually to a BSOD.
One of the aforementioned "bizarre behavior" issues was while using ANY reflections on water. The images that appeared on the water were weirdly out of place, and completely out of scale, as well as appearing kind of 'chopped up' Extremely distracting! Having the reflections on (ANY at all) also resulted in a severe performance hit. Never had this before.
Another strange thing is that instead of showing a reasonable representation of what I see in the Rift headset through the on-screen P3D pane (I used to enjoy letting someone else wear the HMD while I flew them around, using the monitor pane to fly by), I am instead getting an extremely small portion of that view (like perhaps 2-3% of what should be visible), sampled from the extreme upper-left-hand corner of the VR view. I've checked settings over and over again, and have no idea why this is!
Okay -- here are some sys config stats, and possible contributing factors:
I have Windows 10 Home 64-bit -- upgraded from Windows 7 (worst decision I ever made!) Back when the Anniversary update came out last year, it trashed my sim. BSODs IMMEDIATELY every time I tried to launch P3D. I managed to roll it back to just prior to the Anniversary update, and lock out future updates (using some 'mobile data' update prevention setting). So, if any of the software 'players' now rely on any post-Anniversary updates, that could be an issue. But given how badly that update behaved, and how Apple-like Windows has become with Win 10, I am VERY reluctant to allow all those updates to occur. Watching other folks' recent issues (and frequent at-least-temporary-issues with many updates) in online discussions, I am not a fan of giving Windows free range on my computer! If it's this issue that's causing me problems, I'd vastly prefer to do YET ANOTHER complete start-over, and reinstall Win 7. But I'd invite expert input on my experiences and perception...
I have my processor OC'ed to 15%. This never seemed to cause any issues with V3. It seems completely stable outside of P3D V4 usage -- including load tests, etc. Could this still be an issue now? Seems unlikely.
Oculus appears to update itself these days, with no input (or control) from me. So I'd assuming I'm using the most recent version.
My version of FI is the most recent publicly available version.
Add-ons include a large fleet of mostly GA aircraft from A2A, Carenado, Ants, Milviz, etc. With the exception of the RealAir Lancair Legacy, I have only installed V4 certified aircraft, as they have become available. I also own every ORBX product they've made, except for a few Australian airports. I also have most Turbulent airports, and their trees. I use REX Sky Force, ASV4, (REX Texture Direct is still in use for various ground textures, etc). I use the most recent version of the full FSUIPC. There are also a few FlyTampa, LatinVFR, and Drzewiecki Design items installed.
Here are some images of the crash related dialogue boxes I get, etc. I'll send several of the recent crash logs (FlyInside ones) via e-mail shortly, as those are almost always too large for this forum.
If there are other logs you'd like me to send, please reply with which ones, and where to find them.
FWIW, I am looking forward to giving Dan's new simulator a try. But as heavily invested as I am in ORBX and add-on aircraft, I really NEED P3D to work for me. PLEASE HELP!
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Prepar3D V5 | i7-6700k OC@4.6GHz | 32 GBs DDR4 3000 RAM | OS, P3D, Pilot's Mesh, Other Addons each installed to 4 separate Samsung EVO 850 SSDs | GTX 1080Ti | Win 10 Home 64-bit | CV1,