Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

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Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby pegruder » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:56 pm

So this is an issue I originally started having when I installed the XP11 beta and the previous FI. There is this weird double image "shadow" with extremely low frame rate, even in an unpopulated area. I uninstalled and figured ill wait until XP 11 is released with the accompanying FI version. I've been using XP11 with no problems now for some time since it's been released and just noticed 1.8 of FI was released. I installed FI fresh and I still seem to have the same issue. So far my P3D version is 100% for the short time I've used it with 1.8. Any ideas on what this may be? Specs are an i7 4790 OC to 4.6Ghz / 16GB RAM, and and GTX 1080 Amp Extreme edition.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby Jzig » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:05 pm

I'm guessing you're talking about this shadow issue: http://forum.flyinside-fsx.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5363

Same here, had hope 1.8 would fix it but no change. Same issue with FPS, even in the menus I'm getting like 10 FPS now and if you have touch enabled it makes it incredibly frustrating to select anything with such low FPS. Turning HDR off made the shadow thing stop but didn't help the new low FPS issue.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby pegruder » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:35 pm

Same here, I forgot to mention the menus are around 8fps as well. It was nice checking out the touch support in P3D although it's just not my sim of choice as of late.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby Jzig » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:36 pm

Tested a little further. When I first load X-plane, FPS is good in the menus but when the cockpit view loads, the shadow bug is present and HDR enabled. When I slide the main settings meter back to medium to turn HDR off, the shadow bug goes away but my FPS is cut in half. If I load a new airplane, HDR gets turned back on with the shadow bug and then I have to go back into settings and move the slider slightly and set it back at medium and hit ok. The sim reloads, HDR off again w/ bad FPS.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby Greyman » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:10 pm

The shadows appear to be some form of residue, perhaps from a previous session, as i have just been flying at 34,000ft and the shadows looked very much like ghostly buildings and taxiway signs, so probably nothing to do with the existing scenery.

I'm no expert on programming, not for a long time at least, but it looks like something isn't being initialised properly or rogue data is somehow getting onto the image.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby frankstolp » Tue May 02, 2017 5:53 am

Try uninstalling FlywithLUA; worked for me.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby pegruder » Tue May 02, 2017 8:49 am

frankstolp wrote:Try uninstalling FlywithLUA; worked for me.

With FPS/Shadows or both? I'll have to give it a shot. Just trying to remember what I have that required me to install it in the first place. I usually try and keep the plugins to a minimum.
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby Stevil » Tue May 02, 2017 2:38 pm

Deleted FlywithLUA but no changes regarding the cockpit glass shadows here...
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby admin » Tue May 02, 2017 3:49 pm

Hey all,

After the latest update, shadow and FPS issues are a very high priority for us. There are a few things going on in this one thread, so bear with me.

1. Does anyone still hit shadow issues after turning off both FlyWithLUA, and going from "HDR+SSAO to HDR"? Currently, the shadow issues we've been running into here have only been with SSAO turned on, so if you're running into shadow issues without SSAO, more information would be helpful in tracking it down.
2. For those of you who removed FlyWithLUA, and then had shadow problems go away, is there any chance you could narrow down a specific script causing the issue? We'll do some experimentation on our end too of course.

Jzig: When you say "new low FPS issue", are you seeing a significant performance difference between 1.8 and the previous FlyInside version? Any chance you could characterize the "FPS: XX/YY" numbers? So you know, you can safely install FlyInside 1.74 over FlyInside 1.8 and vice-versa to switch versions. Also, can you confirm that you're getting lower FPS without HDR than with HDR?

pegruder: Is the "8 fps" in menus bug new for you since prior versions of FlyInside with X-Plane 11?

Thank you for the reports everyone. Trying to coalesce these reports to figure out how many different bugs there are, so we can fix as many as possible for 1.81 ;)
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Re: Double Shadow/Low Frame rate XP11 / FI1.8

Postby pegruder » Tue May 02, 2017 7:07 pm

admin wrote:Hey all,

After the latest update, shadow and FPS issues are a very high priority for us. There are a few things going on in this one thread, so bear with me.

1. Does anyone still hit shadow issues after turning off both FlyWithLUA, and going from "HDR+SSAO to HDR"? Currently, the shadow issues we've been running into here have only been with SSAO turned on, so if you're running into shadow issues without SSAO, more information would be helpful in tracking it down.
2. For those of you who removed FlyWithLUA, and then had shadow problems go away, is there any chance you could narrow down a specific script causing the issue? We'll do some experimentation on our end too of course.

Jzig: When you say "new low FPS issue", are you seeing a significant performance difference between 1.8 and the previous FlyInside version? Any chance you could characterize the "FPS: XX/YY" numbers? So you know, you can safely install FlyInside 1.74 over FlyInside 1.8 and vice-versa to switch versions. Also, can you confirm that you're getting lower FPS without HDR than with HDR?

pegruder: Is the "8 fps" in menus bug new for you since prior versions of FlyInside with X-Plane 11?

Thank you for the reports everyone. Trying to coalesce these reports to figure out how many different bugs there are, so we can fix as many as possible for 1.81 ;)
Thanks,
Dan


Dan,

Thanks for the reply. As long as I've had XP11 and FI installed I've never had anything better than around 8fps in sim or in menus. I'll give the setting changes a shot in a few minutes and report back.
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